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Worth giving your insurance a call, my insurance on my previous car wanted to know about the mod but no additional charge for a small power increase but anything over 20% and they wouldn't have insured me
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ianp wrote: Wed Jan 01, 2025 1:48 pm I am considering doing the map re-vamp but does it affect insurance etc?
It's certainly something you have to advise them about, or risk failed payouts, policy cancellation, etc. should something unfortunate happen.
The answer to costs is entirely dependant upon your insurer and their appetite for any car modification. The more mainstream your insurer the lower their tolerance to deviation from standard.
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cj10jeeper wrote: Wed Jan 01, 2025 1:04 pm
Sandytim wrote: Tue Dec 31, 2024 7:08 pm I don’t hate the p300 but I fail to see how the benefits outweigh the negatives.
The f type is a compromised car. Small cabin space, smallish boot, wide for U.K. roads, difficult to park, and quite hard to get I and out of.
Yet with the V8/V6 you have an engine so nice that overrides these problems.
So with the P300 you keep the negatives without the positives of a real power plant.
The weight advantage is just a red herring because it’s not lightweight in the sports car world and a when a RWD V8 comes at 1650kg then the difference is not worth a jot.
The fuel consumption on a P300 is also pretty disappointing.
So the only reson to buy a P300 is just for the looks. And that for me is not enough.
Totally agree with your comments here and I certainly also don't hate P300's, rather it's not for me with all the advantages of the larger engines (noise, power, smoothness, supercharger, etc.:

Weight difference from 1525kg is tiny at 52kg Vs the V6 at 1577kg. If you wanted a lightweight sports and really cared then a Cayman at 1360 kg (165 kg less than F Type) & mid-engined is so much better or a Lotus (I'd never buy either though :) )
Fuel economy is no better based on comments made
Engine is a relatively nasty raspy 2.0 turbo that's much more stressed at 150 bhp per litre Vs the alternatives at a c110, needs revving to perform (relative to a V6 or V8)
I can however see why to buy for BIK, insurance costs, purchase price, etc.
I looked at the Cayman but it didn't tick the boxes, not practical enough for weekends away and bloody noisey. I drove the V6S F Type which I've always loved there looks of, and that didn't tick the boxes, practical but didn't handle all that well. The engine sounded nice for the first five minutes then got a bit tiresome and forced, which it is given they chuck so much fuel in the cats to create the noise, so at that I walked away and considered going back to a Giulia Quad.
Then somebody suggested the 2.0L. Genuinely surprised me and I didn't think it would. It ticked all the boxes, yeah it's not as quick, but I've been there done that, a trip to Celtic released a bit more and sharpened the throttle and gearbox, and I would say that's plenty.
It's far more responsive in the bends, you can feel the weight difference over the front, in fact I'm not sure you multi cylinder guys would see which way a 2.0L had gone given some twisties ;)


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Sandytim wrote: Tue Dec 31, 2024 7:08 pm
The f type is a compromised car. Small cabin space, smallish boot, wide for U.K. roads, difficult to park, and quite hard to get I and out of.
Yet with the V8/V6 you have an engine so nice that overrides these problems.
Smallish boot? I think that’s an understatement…….tiny boot would have been more realistic.

Or so my ever loving other half keeps pecking my head about…..🤣🤣🤣

She says we can’t even go shopping in it………result! Who wants to leave their big cat in a flipping supermarket car park?

Not moi👍
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Madpig56 wrote: Sun Jan 05, 2025 9:06 am
Sandytim wrote: Tue Dec 31, 2024 7:08 pm
The f type is a compromised car. Small cabin space, smallish boot, wide for U.K. roads, difficult to park, and quite hard to get I and out of.
Yet with the V8/V6 you have an engine so nice that overrides these problems.
Smallish boot? I think that’s an understatement…….tiny boot would have been more realistic.
Not tiny at all, it's plenty big enough for my needs. But I did choose the coupe. ;)

As for "hard to get out of" - that's only because you want to stay in it and drive it!
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I think the boot is quite big, certainly big enough to persuade my better half it's suitable for weekends away and even normal holidays to be fair.
I've found you can tuck quite a lot of things into the sides and if you're happy to run without a parcel shelf you can fit even more in.
A question, are the flat bottom steering wheels smaller diameter than the standard ones or just at the obvious points?
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JonGreen wrote: Sun Jan 05, 2025 3:48 pm A question, are the flat bottom steering wheels smaller diameter than the standard ones or just at the obvious points?
This has been discussed recently on the US forum and the consensus seems to be that the two wheels are the same diameter. So flat bottom only "smaller" at the bottom!
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scm wrote: Sun Jan 05, 2025 12:15 pm
Madpig56 wrote: Sun Jan 05, 2025 9:06 am
Sandytim wrote: Tue Dec 31, 2024 7:08 pm
The f type is a compromised car. Small cabin space, smallish boot, wide for U.K. roads, difficult to park, and quite hard to get I and out of.
Yet with the V8/V6 you have an engine so nice that overrides these problems.
Smallish boot? I think that’s an understatement…….tiny boot would have been more realistic.
Not tiny at all, it's plenty big enough for my needs. But I did choose the coupe. ;)

As for "hard to get out of" - that's only because you want to stay in it and drive it!
To be clear, I was referring to the convertible boot which is tinier than a tiny thing.

But, now if we need to do anything which requires a proper boot, my wife’s Fiesta has to take the strain👍
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The issue is that journos see so many cars that they lose any sense of desire or the sense of ownership experience ....

Of course all modern cars are effective, fast enough, reliable enough but people are irrational and there have been many cars in history that are more than enough and would suit most people but flopped.

Smaller wheels make for a more comfortable ride but bigger wheels look way better!
Smaller, still powerful engines, work really well but history will never say "remember that 4cyl" rather "do you remember that angry V8"
Electric cars are excellent but for me lack any sense of occasion, start up an angry engine and I still chuckle despite being in my 50s!
An active exhaust button is irrelevant but I wouldn't buy a V8 without one!

Very few people including me can nor should get any road car to its limit on the road yet we all buy overly fast, overly powerful, more expensive to insure, less economical cars .... that's called desire.

But importantly life is full of choices and who am I to say one persons choice is right or wrong, you get one shot in this world so do it your way :)
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