The truth about firing order on the 3.0

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Smiffie
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Post by Smiffie »

I have had a 2015 3.0 coupe for about 2 years and I dont like it so I hardly ever drive it.

Funny start to a post :)

I love the looks, I never owned an E type and I was about when they were cheap and used everyday by anyone, I missed that boat, so when I got the chance to get a F type I was all in.
This car has been touched by URBAN and my son who worked for a luxury car company has driven many, said that this car has been worked as it was faster than those he had driven, and I thought wow this is me, but it aint, it is far too fast, too loud and too uncomfortable and too dangerous to drive if the roads are a bit damp, so I never use it, I have done just a couple of thousand miles in two years, so it has to go, it has been taxed and stored in the garage for too long and I decided to get it out and give it a bath and advertise it.

Another reason for selling it is that I just bought a P300 convertible, it is so much more comfortable, beautiful, smoother and softer to drive, and looks more like an E type than the coupe.

Back to the coupe, It started immediately, as always and I pulled it out of the garage and let it tick over as the battery could do with a charge and I was doing something else, after 5 minutes I got it in and thought I would give it a blast up the road to clear out any cob-webs, as soon as I got onto the road it started to cough and splutter - ??????. The engine check light was flashing and I limped it home.

I put the diagnostic tool on it and it came up as " multiple misfire " cylinder 2, lets hope it is a plug and nothing major.

I got it back in the garage and lifted the bonnet and AH !!! what one is number 2 ? So I search.

Youtube say it is 123 on drivers bank, 456 on passengers bank starting at the front, Google say 135 and 246, then another 123 - 456 and looking at the coil packs and their location I dont want to be taking this apart for nothing as it looked hard, and it was. Wherever you look you will get different information.

I went with 123 on the drivers side starting at the front and I took number 2 out - the middle one, the plug was warm and looked ok, but you cant tell by this, anyway it was late so I quit for the day, last night I got the F type manual out and tried to find the section that would show the configuration but you cant search for it, so you have to look, Soooooooo many pages.
So I quit, today I went to youtube again, then the workshop manual, then google and it seemed like every time I looked someone said 123-456 and the next guy would say 135-246.

One place said it was 123-456 for the early 3.0 S type, and 135-246 for all current models, that must be it. NOPE.

If you are reading this and think oh you are a 123-456 guy and that still doesn't give you the answer you want, I am here to tell you what the car said it is and this is how.


I took the middle plug out of the (English RHD) drivers side plug out, I hoped this was number 2.

I then took the first plug out on the (English RHD) passengers side - nearest the radiator.

I swapped the plugs and put it back together and it started like a Trabant on a good day. or for those that dont know what a Trabant is its a POS.

I then put the diagnostic back on and read the codes and it came up with a misfire on cylinder 4.

The evidence shows the the drivers side bank is 1-2-3 number 1 being closest to the radiators, and on the passengers side bank it is 4-5-6 number 4 being closet to the radiator.

This has been a long story, but much shorter than trying to find this information on line or in the manual.

Hope this helps.


PS, I need a battery cover for a convertible ( different from the coupe) and a front tow eye cover, if anyone has one.

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Post by Pigsy »

Nope.

And it’s 5 mins out of my life I won’t get back.
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Post by Pilot Pete »

Why are you asking about firing order? That’s irrelevant to the problem you have. You want cylinder number order not firing order.
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Post by Moss »

I think the thread title should be, “A fool and his tool” ……

Or, maybe, another keyboard clown 👍
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Post by DragonPunchU »

I've stopped at "too fast, too loud...".
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Post by Jaguandy »

Er no, I know the man. He's far from foolish and has a wealth of auto knowledge and has some very special and fast cars. Very nice helpful guy too. He's just having a humorous vent, not unusual.
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Post by Pigsy »

Went well for him then.
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Post by Smiffie »

Thanks A.

We have had these type of people before, I was hoping I left all that behind. I wonder how they would have got on with Whiltshire Hahahahaha.

Regards to V
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Post by gasgas »

I have had a 2015 3.0 coupe for about 2 years and I dont like it so I hardly ever drive it.

Why buy it in the first place???????????
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Post by scm »

gasgas wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 8:04 am I have had a 2015 3.0 coupe for about 2 years and I dont like it so I hardly ever drive it.

Why buy it in the first place???????????
He didn't realise he couldn't cope with the speed or power.
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