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genp729
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Post by genp729 »

@Jimmyrn85, if you're ever travelling along the M4 past Junc 15/16 let me know, as I never say no to the offer of a beer :) You can work on the rear speakers without removing the seats, although only if you are 5'6" like me. Rear bulkhead panels/speaker covers are a bit fiddly, but you can get them out without having to remove the parcel shelf. I fully photographed the full upgrade, but lappy they were stored on died and I've yet to recover the data. In order of bang for buck/effort, I would suggest tackling audio upgrade path as follows:

1. 3 layer soundproof on doors. Outer door skin, rear of inner door panel, rear of door card. I used DoDo mat, but of course there are many others to choose from.
2. Upgrade to Kevlar Meridian Signature speakers for the 100mm mid and 200mm woofer in door. Tweeter only if you are keen on sharp vocals or the classics. Having carried out 1+ 2, move the staging forward to reduce the input from the stock rear speakers, as they will distract from the tighter audio being delivered from the doors. I'm not familiar with the DSP settings of the 'Meridian Surround' 770W system, but if you generally listen to your music in 'surround' mode rather than Dolby Stereo, I'd say go ahead and fit the Kevlar upgrade centre speaker. On it's own, it's not going to make that much of a difference as it's only a 100mm mid with co-axial tweeter.

The Meridian Signature speakers come up on Ebay every now and then, although the 200mm woofers not so often. Alternatively the Kevlar upgrade speakers can be purchased new for reasonable price from the likes of Britcar.

3. If you want to have better quality input from the rears, you can keep the standard amp and go for the Audison and Bold combination using second hand speaker frames (or gut your own frames if you decide there's no going back). You'll have to do some soldering to match up the twin coil input for the Bold to the Jaguar connections and use some adapter rings to fit the new speakers into the frames, but apart from that it's plug and play as the speaker resistances will match what the Jaguar amplifier is expecting at the end of the wire. I could only source the Bold from Germany as it's not available for sale in UK.

Next level up from 1 - 3 would be full audio overhaul. Signal processor to capture OEM head unit output, new amplifier(s), speakers, custom cabinet, boot mounted sub, basically whatever your budget will stretch to. For me 1 - 3 produced a definite improvement, certainly on par with the Harmon Kardon in my Beemer and was an enjoyable exercise that I could undertake without needing much in the way of car audio knowledge. The F-Type is never going to be the best environment for listening to music, but for a reasonable sum and a little effort, it can certainly be improved.
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Post by Jimmyrn85 »

Thanks mate, I definitely will.

Searching on Britcar for C2D24861 picks up the door bass speaker - Is this actually an upgrade? Doesn't look like kevlar looks pretty bad?

https://britcar.com/product.php/397154/ ... vin_v89753
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@Jimmyrn85 - now that normal service has been resumed on the Forum, I can reassure you that despite appearances, C2D24861 is indeed the correct upgrade for the original paper coned 200mm door bass speakers. You are going from this -->

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to this -->

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If you have any difficulties sourcing a pair of door bass speakers, try searching Ebay for 'XJ Sub Parcel Shelf' AW93-04692-BC, which houses two C2D24861, it looks like -->

XJ Sub parcel shelf.jpg

If you have any difficulties sourcing a pair of 100mm door mids, try searching Ebay for AW93-18808-BC (C2D2076). These are the yellow Kevlar coned Bowers & Wilkins equivalent of the black Kevlar coned Meridian Signature. They are exactly the same speakers (made by Panasonic for JLR) apart from cone colour.

To further aid you in carrying out the upgrade, original door speaker upgrade YouTube video by F-Type forum member --> www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZecRBquBTtw&t=2s

and more recent video documenting the same upgrade, although note the individual has incorrectly fitted the co-axial centre speaker (AW93-18808-EC) as replacement for the door mids, which should be a single 100mm (C2D24862 or C2D2076). --> www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnucx6vXNW8

Good luck!
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Jimmyrn85
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I owe you several beers... Thanks so much for the info.
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Post by MaxD_2021 »

I may be late to the party, but I went down a similar route.

Sound proofed the hell out of everything and fitted the following:
Tweeter: CPLA-18808-HA
Mid: AW93-18808-BC
Woofer: Audison AP8 (with adapter)

The mids can also be found under their Panasonic reference number: EAS10PM654A.


The photos (if they load) show the window slider covered - this was for the photo as I went a little OTT on the deadening material application & thought why not.

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I'm toying with the idea I can model and 3D print something for the rear speakers...
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How does that AP8 behave, rattle the hell out of the doors? Get enough power from the standard amp? Where did you get adapter from?
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Post by MaxD_2021 »

Jimmyrn85 wrote: Thu Nov 28, 2024 4:55 pm How does that AP8 behave, rattle the hell out of the doors? Get enough power from the standard amp? Where did you get adapter from?
It behaves incredibly well, doesn't rattle the doors and gets sufficient power from the standard amp to enable me to hear the music loudly with the roof down driving the beast. No issues from me!

The adapter can be purchased from CEN Automotive in Nottingham and they ship. Calling CEN (01159 240666) will be quicker than trying to find the adapter on their website!
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Legend thanks!
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MaxD_2021
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Post by MaxD_2021 »

Any potential rattle is removed with the sound deadening material. :-)
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Post by wooch »

Genp729, THANK YOU for providing the useful table

D9LLT - please let me know if you have the new old speakers available - I'd be happy to negotiate!

Cheers
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